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	<title>Comments for Support Our School</title>
	<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz</link>
	<description>SOS - Society of Space - School of Architecture and Planning Student Body - University of Auckland</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Disappearing of Peggy Deamer - Metro Novermber 2007 by Jym Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-142</link>
		<author>Jym Clark</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-142</guid>
		<description>Careful on how loud that applause for Pip Cheshire is. His comments regarding the place that planning holds are based on shaky and bias feelings (First column p. 92). As the world gets more complicated the need for planning will only grow. Should we say that transit orientated land use should not be required to help combat climate change and encourage stronger communities? In this instance it is the work of planners that are gearing these new settlements for the future. I suggest that Cheshire think past the small amount of time and money he had to expend on his last project's resource consent before he bemoans the entire profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful on how loud that applause for Pip Cheshire is. His comments regarding the place that planning holds are based on shaky and bias feelings (First column p. 92). As the world gets more complicated the need for planning will only grow. Should we say that transit orientated land use should not be required to help combat climate change and encourage stronger communities? In this instance it is the work of planners that are gearing these new settlements for the future. I suggest that Cheshire think past the small amount of time and money he had to expend on his last project&#8217;s resource consent before he bemoans the entire profession.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Disappearing of Peggy Deamer - Metro Novermber 2007 by kate's friend</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-134</link>
		<author>kate's friend</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-134</guid>
		<description>What a great parting shot from John Hunt. He deserves our resounding applause for saying what we are all thinking.

Especially since the other professors at the school, Jenny Dixon and Errol Haarhoff, find it impossible to say anything other than "Yes Lord Pretty, thy bidding shall be done". These two people are supposed to be the people at this school to champion free thinking. 

Its about time Errol and Jenny stood with John in calling for shaman's head on a pike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great parting shot from John Hunt. He deserves our resounding applause for saying what we are all thinking.</p>
<p>Especially since the other professors at the school, Jenny Dixon and Errol Haarhoff, find it impossible to say anything other than &#8220;Yes Lord Pretty, thy bidding shall be done&#8221;. These two people are supposed to be the people at this school to champion free thinking. </p>
<p>Its about time Errol and Jenny stood with John in calling for shaman&#8217;s head on a pike.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Disappearing of Peggy Deamer - Metro Novermber 2007 by kate's friend</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-130</link>
		<author>kate's friend</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-130</guid>
		<description>I only wish the metro photographer had taken that photo of John with the hundreds of students that feel the same way.

Shaman needs to go (i'd say 'home' to Sydney, but they don't want her back either).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only wish the metro photographer had taken that photo of John with the hundreds of students that feel the same way.</p>
<p>Shaman needs to go (i&#8217;d say &#8216;home&#8217; to Sydney, but they don&#8217;t want her back either).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thanks Jenny by SCKChui</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=84#comment-128</link>
		<author>SCKChui</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=84#comment-128</guid>
		<description>This is good.  I\'ve always had the feeling that since the staff are never around after-hours, they have no idea what actually happens in studio, or that it is only when they\'re not around that the good work gets done.  Maybe we need more of this, since they\'re never going to take the initiative to get to understand the studios.  Studio-cam?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good.  I\&#8217;ve always had the feeling that since the staff are never around after-hours, they have no idea what actually happens in studio, or that it is only when they\&#8217;re not around that the good work gets done.  Maybe we need more of this, since they\&#8217;re never going to take the initiative to get to understand the studios.  Studio-cam?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Disappearing of Peggy Deamer - Metro Novermber 2007 by Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-126</link>
		<author>Simon</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-126</guid>
		<description>Good to see a staff member with the balls to speak out at last ... 

Death To The NICAI !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see a staff member with the balls to speak out at last &#8230; </p>
<p>Death To The NICAI !!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Disappearing of Peggy Deamer - Metro Novermber 2007 by Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-125</link>
		<author>Brendan</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-125</guid>
		<description>Finally, a line in the sand / DPC.   
Sound applause for Professor Hunt and Pip Cheshire, &#38; a hearty back-slap to Peggy Deamer; this situation has been brewing for far too long and frankly, it\'s just not cricket.   Students sink extraordinary sums of money in the pursuit of higher education and the corruption of their qualifications - surely the worst form of carrot/stick - schtick an education provider may proffer - at the hands of recalcitrant, bullish and ill-advised dullards does not sound reputation, make.

Note to Sharman Pretty, Stuart McCutcheon, Raewyn Dalziel et al - 
Interested in promotion and marketing?   Talk to Mary-Kate and Ashley.
NICAI is a turd that will offer no lustre no matter how hard you polish.
Own that dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, a line in the sand / DPC.<br />
Sound applause for Professor Hunt and Pip Cheshire, &amp; a hearty back-slap to Peggy Deamer; this situation has been brewing for far too long and frankly, it\&#8217;s just not cricket.   Students sink extraordinary sums of money in the pursuit of higher education and the corruption of their qualifications - surely the worst form of carrot/stick - schtick an education provider may proffer - at the hands of recalcitrant, bullish and ill-advised dullards does not sound reputation, make.</p>
<p>Note to Sharman Pretty, Stuart McCutcheon, Raewyn Dalziel et al -<br />
Interested in promotion and marketing?   Talk to Mary-Kate and Ashley.<br />
NICAI is a turd that will offer no lustre no matter how hard you polish.<br />
Own that dream.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Disappearing of Peggy Deamer - Metro Novermber 2007 by Kate's sister</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-123</link>
		<author>Kate's sister</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-123</guid>
		<description>This doesn't sound good for us at all. At least it'll be quiet next year on level four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t sound good for us at all. At least it&#8217;ll be quiet next year on level four.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Disappearing of Peggy Deamer - Metro Novermber 2007 by Fj</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-122</link>
		<author>Fj</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-122</guid>
		<description>I'm leaving this school with a broken heart... everytime I read another article on the 'management' issues, my heart shatters.  I really miss the term "SoA" (School of Architecture) and all the lectureres who have inspired me but have now disappeared... 
Kerry Morrow, Jules Maloney, Ross Jenner, Koung Nyugent, Rewi Thompson, Charles Walker, Robert &#38; Brenda Vale, Kit Kuttle, Hayden Willey, Errol Haarhoff, Peggy Deamer...etc

The cause of this whole chaos is obvious and thanks to Prof. John Hunt who have pointed out so bluntly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m leaving this school with a broken heart&#8230; everytime I read another article on the &#8216;management&#8217; issues, my heart shatters.  I really miss the term &#8220;SoA&#8221; (School of Architecture) and all the lectureres who have inspired me but have now disappeared&#8230;<br />
Kerry Morrow, Jules Maloney, Ross Jenner, Koung Nyugent, Rewi Thompson, Charles Walker, Robert &amp; Brenda Vale, Kit Kuttle, Hayden Willey, Errol Haarhoff, Peggy Deamer&#8230;etc</p>
<p>The cause of this whole chaos is obvious and thanks to Prof. John Hunt who have pointed out so bluntly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Disappearing of Peggy Deamer - Metro Novermber 2007 by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-120</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=116#comment-120</guid>
		<description>I heart John Hunt; what a good man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heart John Hunt; what a good man.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vice Chancellor to Quit - Craccum by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=106#comment-118</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=106#comment-118</guid>
		<description>Oh Yeah !!!
This may be the change we need !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Yeah !!!<br />
This may be the change we need !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Staff hit at &#8216;unseemly spat&#8217; between university heads - NZ Herald by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=92#comment-117</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=92#comment-117</guid>
		<description>"other universities may have boosted their performance by strategically reducing the number of eligible staff who did not do research"
...
huh ... isn't that what you do too ... STU ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;other universities may have boosted their performance by strategically reducing the number of eligible staff who did not do research&#8221;<br />
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huh &#8230; isn&#8217;t that what you do too &#8230; STU ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Universities Driven to Competitive Malaise - NZ Herald by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=80#comment-116</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=80#comment-116</guid>
		<description>Alan Cocker is right on the mark !

PBRF - performance based research fund - is poorly suited to an architecture school.   Im not an expert on PBRF but i know Its a funding system designed to get lecturers/tutors continuing research etc etc upon which the funding is allocated.

In architecture - we are have high resource requirements.  We require 24/7 access to studios with drawing boards, computing gear and expensive software (that we can not afford to personally run on personal computers).  We require a workshop and modeling tools (such as laser cutter).  PBRF does not acknowledge that some schools will require a greater fund to maintain these types of resources than other schools which dont require half as much.

Also - architecture lecturers/tutors do not give 1 hr lectures.  They need to spend entire days in studio classes.  They have less time to conduct their research.

Similarly - architecture has a heavy involvement with the profession.  Many of our tutors are practitioners who are not carrying out research for the university.  Therefore the staff that are lecturers at architecture school have a much greater load in terms of research to compensate for these practitioners teaching in our school.

PBRF is against us in most ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Cocker is right on the mark !</p>
<p>PBRF - performance based research fund - is poorly suited to an architecture school.   Im not an expert on PBRF but i know Its a funding system designed to get lecturers/tutors continuing research etc etc upon which the funding is allocated.</p>
<p>In architecture - we are have high resource requirements.  We require 24/7 access to studios with drawing boards, computing gear and expensive software (that we can not afford to personally run on personal computers).  We require a workshop and modeling tools (such as laser cutter).  PBRF does not acknowledge that some schools will require a greater fund to maintain these types of resources than other schools which dont require half as much.</p>
<p>Also - architecture lecturers/tutors do not give 1 hr lectures.  They need to spend entire days in studio classes.  They have less time to conduct their research.</p>
<p>Similarly - architecture has a heavy involvement with the profession.  Many of our tutors are practitioners who are not carrying out research for the university.  Therefore the staff that are lecturers at architecture school have a much greater load in terms of research to compensate for these practitioners teaching in our school.</p>
<p>PBRF is against us in most ways.</p>
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		<title>Comment on As Reported to NZIA, Printed in BLOCK - NZIA Newsletter by Derail</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=78#comment-114</link>
		<author>Derail</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=78#comment-114</guid>
		<description>We must also add that at the Meeting held between the Dean, Head of School and Architecture Student Representatives with the Chair of the SSCC, we formally asked that the Dean Sharman Pretty, support  Prof Jenny Dixon our Head of School, to her full capacity.

We do not want the present Head of School to experience the same difficulties that our previous Head of Schools have had to deal with over the last 4 years of NICAI's existence.

This is ultimately what the Student arguement is about. 

For the Faculty and the Dean to consider our teachers' concerns.
To support them effectively on all levels.

Academically, admistratively and for a working environment that does not hamper their ability to work and teach effectively.

Unfortunately the Faculty is not providing this situation.
The University and the Vice-Chancellor have been told by the Staff that this is the case but choose not to listen. 

The University is playing a dangerous game, and are not acting on the responsibilty that they owe the Students and the Staff, by choosing to either not understand the situation or even worse ignore the situation completely. 

It is our opinion that, inevitably the Faculty and University Heads are waiting for the 'storm to blow over' and for the time when it can withdraw its psuedo-attempt to really deal with the problems that are concerning the School of Architecture and Planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must also add that at the Meeting held between the Dean, Head of School and Architecture Student Representatives with the Chair of the SSCC, we formally asked that the Dean Sharman Pretty, support  Prof Jenny Dixon our Head of School, to her full capacity.</p>
<p>We do not want the present Head of School to experience the same difficulties that our previous Head of Schools have had to deal with over the last 4 years of NICAI&#8217;s existence.</p>
<p>This is ultimately what the Student arguement is about. </p>
<p>For the Faculty and the Dean to consider our teachers&#8217; concerns.<br />
To support them effectively on all levels.</p>
<p>Academically, admistratively and for a working environment that does not hamper their ability to work and teach effectively.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the Faculty is not providing this situation.<br />
The University and the Vice-Chancellor have been told by the Staff that this is the case but choose not to listen. </p>
<p>The University is playing a dangerous game, and are not acting on the responsibilty that they owe the Students and the Staff, by choosing to either not understand the situation or even worse ignore the situation completely. </p>
<p>It is our opinion that, inevitably the Faculty and University Heads are waiting for the &#8217;storm to blow over&#8217; and for the time when it can withdraw its psuedo-attempt to really deal with the problems that are concerning the School of Architecture and Planning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on As Reported to NZIA, Printed in BLOCK - NZIA Newsletter by Derail</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=78#comment-113</link>
		<author>Derail</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=78#comment-113</guid>
		<description>It has been argued by NICAI that each Department has program leaders, from which leadership can be provided. The Architecture program leaders have written to the Vice Chancellor, expressing their concerns, which shows they share similar thoughts.

We see ultimately that the system determining School management, and it's enforcement by the NICAI Faculty and the Dean needs to be seriously assessed. This goes down to deep questions on how each Deaprtment is allowed to make decisions for themselves ....

Pasted below is an email sent to Prof Dixon the week following her appointment:

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Dear Professor Dixon,

We the student body wish to inform you that we are delivering a letter to the Vice-Chancellor on Monday. 

It has been signed by a large number of the Architecture and Planning student body. 

The letter contains concerns we have with the University's attitude towards the school. 

Our complaint is not with the Staff of the School, but with the greater University.

We look forward to seeing you when you return. 

Yours faithfully

Society of Space
Student Body
School of Architecture and Planning</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been argued by NICAI that each Department has program leaders, from which leadership can be provided. The Architecture program leaders have written to the Vice Chancellor, expressing their concerns, which shows they share similar thoughts.</p>
<p>We see ultimately that the system determining School management, and it&#8217;s enforcement by the NICAI Faculty and the Dean needs to be seriously assessed. This goes down to deep questions on how each Deaprtment is allowed to make decisions for themselves &#8230;.</p>
<p>Pasted below is an email sent to Prof Dixon the week following her appointment:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Dear Professor Dixon,</p>
<p>We the student body wish to inform you that we are delivering a letter to the Vice-Chancellor on Monday. </p>
<p>It has been signed by a large number of the Architecture and Planning student body. </p>
<p>The letter contains concerns we have with the University&#8217;s attitude towards the school. </p>
<p>Our complaint is not with the Staff of the School, but with the greater University.</p>
<p>We look forward to seeing you when you return. </p>
<p>Yours faithfully</p>
<p>Society of Space<br />
Student Body<br />
School of Architecture and Planning</p>
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		<title>Comment on As Reported to NZIA, Printed in BLOCK - NZIA Newsletter by Derail</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=78#comment-112</link>
		<author>Derail</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=78#comment-112</guid>
		<description>In regards to the NZIA report and Christopher's comment.
The Students complaint lies with the system governing both the Planning and Architecture Department which was enforced on us both by the formation of NICAI back in 2005. 

At the time it was argued by the University that the two Deaprtments should be placed together due to the similarities academically. However it is clear that this was just an exercise in University administration by the University as both Departments opposed the merger. 

The students of Architecture wish the system governing our School be changed. 
We apologise if it appears that we are attacking Prof. Dixon personally, as we are not. 
We however do feel that if both Departments are to work effectively then Co-Heads of School from each Department would be a better option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the NZIA report and Christopher&#8217;s comment.<br />
The Students complaint lies with the system governing both the Planning and Architecture Department which was enforced on us both by the formation of NICAI back in 2005. </p>
<p>At the time it was argued by the University that the two Deaprtments should be placed together due to the similarities academically. However it is clear that this was just an exercise in University administration by the University as both Departments opposed the merger. </p>
<p>The students of Architecture wish the system governing our School be changed.<br />
We apologise if it appears that we are attacking Prof. Dixon personally, as we are not.<br />
We however do feel that if both Departments are to work effectively then Co-Heads of School from each Department would be a better option.</p>
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		<title>Comment on As Reported to NZIA, Printed in BLOCK - NZIA Newsletter by Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=78#comment-111</link>
		<author>Christopher</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=78#comment-111</guid>
		<description>Once again, statements regarding the ability of Ms Dixon to lead the School of Planning AND Architecture are not appropriate. Ms Dixon is eminently suitable to lead the School - as a planner one has to deal with architects closely, every day. 

Making such statements drives a wedge effectively between the planners and architects in this current situation. Did planners moan when Peggy (an architect) was appointed? Did they moan at the inappropriateness of an architect leading a Planning School? No.

To constantly criticise the ability of a Planner to lead an Architects school betrays an arrogance that is not needed or welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, statements regarding the ability of Ms Dixon to lead the School of Planning AND Architecture are not appropriate. Ms Dixon is eminently suitable to lead the School - as a planner one has to deal with architects closely, every day. </p>
<p>Making such statements drives a wedge effectively between the planners and architects in this current situation. Did planners moan when Peggy (an architect) was appointed? Did they moan at the inappropriateness of an architect leading a Planning School? No.</p>
<p>To constantly criticise the ability of a Planner to lead an Architects school betrays an arrogance that is not needed or welcome.</p>
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		<title>Comment on As Reported to NZIA, Printed in BLOCK - NZIA Newsletter by Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=78#comment-109</link>
		<author>Simon</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=78#comment-109</guid>
		<description>This is a no brainer Dixon got the job because she is Sharman's "YES MAN" that was all that was required of the applicant.

The NZIA need to condemn this appointment publicly. 


DOWN WITH NICAI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a no brainer Dixon got the job because she is Sharman&#8217;s &#8220;YES MAN&#8221; that was all that was required of the applicant.</p>
<p>The NZIA need to condemn this appointment publicly. </p>
<p>DOWN WITH NICAI</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peggy Deamer now teaching at Unitec by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=58#comment-99</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=58#comment-99</guid>
		<description>To I Am Scared

1.  This is by no means the fault of the school.  The school of architecture is not the party controlling our funding, resourcing and staffing issues.  The school is questioning the management of the NICAI faculty and the dean.  The faculty - NICAI - need to learn.  They need to change their attitude, not the school.  The school see a clear potential in further promoting and improving our already excelling school, we are simply having issues in directing the vision of the faculty along that positive path.

2.  Our degree will not be worthless.  We still have passionate staff and passionate students who will continue to learn and achieve valuable degrees regardless of the poor attitudes of the dean and faculty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To I Am Scared</p>
<p>1.  This is by no means the fault of the school.  The school of architecture is not the party controlling our funding, resourcing and staffing issues.  The school is questioning the management of the NICAI faculty and the dean.  The faculty - NICAI - need to learn.  They need to change their attitude, not the school.  The school see a clear potential in further promoting and improving our already excelling school, we are simply having issues in directing the vision of the faculty along that positive path.</p>
<p>2.  Our degree will not be worthless.  We still have passionate staff and passionate students who will continue to learn and achieve valuable degrees regardless of the poor attitudes of the dean and faculty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Responses to the Dean and Vice-Chancellor&#8217;s Letter to the Editor by anon</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=65#comment-97</link>
		<author>anon</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=65#comment-97</guid>
		<description>could we not send these letters to the editor under the SOS or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could we not send these letters to the editor under the SOS or something?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Craccum News - Architecture Redux: University Releases Response, Tortures English Language by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=75#comment-96</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=75#comment-96</guid>
		<description>Ha - "Tortures English language".  Quite true.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Cracks Appearing in the Foundation by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=61#comment-95</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=61#comment-95</guid>
		<description>Now that we have the head of the NZIA saying he would not send his dog to the Universitys School of Architecture, do we now think it is time that Stu and Sharman pulled their heads out of their arses and accept there are serious problems that need addressing, rather than making up bullsh!t reasons and covering cracks. Everybody is fed up with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that we have the head of the NZIA saying he would not send his dog to the Universitys School of Architecture, do we now think it is time that Stu and Sharman pulled their heads out of their arses and accept there are serious problems that need addressing, rather than making up bullsh!t reasons and covering cracks. Everybody is fed up with it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Removed from NICAI Website by S CK Chui</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=49#comment-94</link>
		<author>S CK Chui</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=49#comment-94</guid>
		<description>"the new head has had more experience operating in the clearly political climate that exists in faculty management. Her skills are what are needed now."

Tragic.  This is what a regime in its death throes looks like.  It hadn't occurred to me that it was THAT bad already.  Thanks for pointing that out, Christopher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the new head has had more experience operating in the clearly political climate that exists in faculty management. Her skills are what are needed now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tragic.  This is what a regime in its death throes looks like.  It hadn&#8217;t occurred to me that it was THAT bad already.  Thanks for pointing that out, Christopher.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Responses to the Dean and Vice-Chancellor&#8217;s Letter to the Editor by ej</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=65#comment-86</link>
		<author>ej</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=65#comment-86</guid>
		<description>has anyone thought that maybe the awards etc of senior students cannot yet be related to the current administration? nicai has only been around three years and is to some extent like a new owner of a company, gradually leaching all of the resources and profit out of the enterprise until there is nothing but a shell left</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has anyone thought that maybe the awards etc of senior students cannot yet be related to the current administration? nicai has only been around three years and is to some extent like a new owner of a company, gradually leaching all of the resources and profit out of the enterprise until there is nothing but a shell left</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peggy Deamer now teaching at Unitec by Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=58#comment-83</link>
		<author>Christopher</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=58#comment-83</guid>
		<description>good grief - teaching at Unitec?? From Yale to there????</description>
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		<title>Comment on Peggy Deamer now teaching at Unitec by i am scared</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=58#comment-80</link>
		<author>i am scared</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=58#comment-80</guid>
		<description>when is the school going to learn?
i am scared that one day my degree is going to be worthless by this rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when is the school going to learn?<br />
i am scared that one day my degree is going to be worthless by this rate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peggy Deamer now teaching at Unitec by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=58#comment-79</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=58#comment-79</guid>
		<description>I Ya ! , Slap in the face.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Removed from NICAI Website by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=49#comment-78</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=49#comment-78</guid>
		<description>Christopher,

Fair enough, but i think my point is that the dean or faculty or whoever appoints heads of schools, managed to do so in such a short time.   You therefore have to question that decision.  The transition from Errol to Peggy took well over a year.  The issue is not with the new head, but those who appointed her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher,</p>
<p>Fair enough, but i think my point is that the dean or faculty or whoever appoints heads of schools, managed to do so in such a short time.   You therefore have to question that decision.  The transition from Errol to Peggy took well over a year.  The issue is not with the new head, but those who appointed her.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Removed from NICAI Website by Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=49#comment-77</link>
		<author>Christopher</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=49#comment-77</guid>
		<description>Please be careful in venting your frustration.

An attitude that only architects are properly qualified to head the school is the quickest way to destroy the whole school through sowing negative feelings between architects and planners.

Whatever the process, the new head has had more experience operating in the clearly political climate that exists in faculty management. Her skills are what are needed now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please be careful in venting your frustration.</p>
<p>An attitude that only architects are properly qualified to head the school is the quickest way to destroy the whole school through sowing negative feelings between architects and planners.</p>
<p>Whatever the process, the new head has had more experience operating in the clearly political climate that exists in faculty management. Her skills are what are needed now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Removed from NICAI Website by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=49#comment-76</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=49#comment-76</guid>
		<description>The hardest thing to get my head around here is not that this article was quite deliberatly removed from the NICAI website, but:

How come the new head of school, who is not even architecturally educated - a planner - can be appointed so quickly - 3 days.  Peggy was the result of a lengthy international search.

Also - selected for her clear visions, new ideas and approaches - and it would seem had to resign due to the faculty preventing any of these clear visions, ideas and approaches from being achieved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hardest thing to get my head around here is not that this article was quite deliberatly removed from the NICAI website, but:</p>
<p>How come the new head of school, who is not even architecturally educated - a planner - can be appointed so quickly - 3 days.  Peggy was the result of a lengthy international search.</p>
<p>Also - selected for her clear visions, new ideas and approaches - and it would seem had to resign due to the faculty preventing any of these clear visions, ideas and approaches from being achieved.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Striking a false note - Article on Guardian Unlimited by Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=48#comment-69</link>
		<author>Ed</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=48#comment-69</guid>
		<description>If you are reading this Mr VC, I think it's time to do something! There is only so long you can sit with your head in a hole acting like nothing is happening. This is being read about in Europe now!! WAKE UP MAN!! Surely you can see your leg up into Oxford floating away!? It's only SP's head that needs to come off, save yourself !! Pick up the axe.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are reading this Mr VC, I think it&#8217;s time to do something! There is only so long you can sit with your head in a hole acting like nothing is happening. This is being read about in Europe now!! WAKE UP MAN!! Surely you can see your leg up into Oxford floating away!? It&#8217;s only SP&#8217;s head that needs to come off, save yourself !! Pick up the axe&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Professor Pretty, Dean &#038; Stuart McCutcheon, Vice-Chancellor - Write a Letter to the Editor by AB</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-67</link>
		<author>AB</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-67</guid>
		<description>The fact that a lot of people are writing with just their initials or without stating obviously who they are should show that we do all feel threatened by the \</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that a lot of people are writing with just their initials or without stating obviously who they are should show that we do all feel threatened by the \</p>
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		<title>Comment on Craccum News - Page 8 by SCKC</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=42#comment-65</link>
		<author>SCKC</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=42#comment-65</guid>
		<description>To sevensixfive,

Speaking informally, and representing my personal opinion:

The sentiment at the architecture school at the University of Auckland is that the school is being mismanaged, and that has manifested in the dubious handling of physical and human resourses here.

Regarding Professor Deamer, she is one, and the highest caliber, of a series of well respected teaching staff that have left the School without any official statements, although the unspoken understanding is that they are not happy with the Faculty management, to say the least.

The misalignment boils down to uncompatible priorities between the Faculty management and the School.  The Faculty seems interested in things like course structure, staff-to-student ratios, expensive studio furniture and equipment, etc.  The School, both the staff and students, are more interested in course content, staff caliber, productivity and accessiblity of studios and studio equipment, etc.  The University management are following metrics and objectives that are not sufficiently aligned to producing practical, positive results for the School.

To any sensible person assuming the company of other sensible people, this would not be a problem that cannot be easily solved through dialogue and collaboration.  But if you read through all the posts in the blog, you will find that there is very little confidence left amongst the University staff and students in the University management\'s capacity for sensible dialogue and collaboration.  Don\'t think that we haven\'t tried.

From the very brief time that we have had the pleasure of having Professor Deamer as our Head of School, we agree with you that she is indeed a fine educator, and that is why we are making sure that her departure will not be unnoticed by the profession and the public.  We would also like to ensure that we will not continue to lose educators of high caliber, and we would like the University management to do a better job.

Again, the above is my personal, informal and probably biased opinion of the situation at hand, and should not be construed as a official statement by any party.  But, as you say, the street news and context would be appreciated.

SCKC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To sevensixfive,</p>
<p>Speaking informally, and representing my personal opinion:</p>
<p>The sentiment at the architecture school at the University of Auckland is that the school is being mismanaged, and that has manifested in the dubious handling of physical and human resourses here.</p>
<p>Regarding Professor Deamer, she is one, and the highest caliber, of a series of well respected teaching staff that have left the School without any official statements, although the unspoken understanding is that they are not happy with the Faculty management, to say the least.</p>
<p>The misalignment boils down to uncompatible priorities between the Faculty management and the School.  The Faculty seems interested in things like course structure, staff-to-student ratios, expensive studio furniture and equipment, etc.  The School, both the staff and students, are more interested in course content, staff caliber, productivity and accessiblity of studios and studio equipment, etc.  The University management are following metrics and objectives that are not sufficiently aligned to producing practical, positive results for the School.</p>
<p>To any sensible person assuming the company of other sensible people, this would not be a problem that cannot be easily solved through dialogue and collaboration.  But if you read through all the posts in the blog, you will find that there is very little confidence left amongst the University staff and students in the University management\&#8217;s capacity for sensible dialogue and collaboration.  Don\&#8217;t think that we haven\&#8217;t tried.</p>
<p>From the very brief time that we have had the pleasure of having Professor Deamer as our Head of School, we agree with you that she is indeed a fine educator, and that is why we are making sure that her departure will not be unnoticed by the profession and the public.  We would also like to ensure that we will not continue to lose educators of high caliber, and we would like the University management to do a better job.</p>
<p>Again, the above is my personal, informal and probably biased opinion of the situation at hand, and should not be construed as a official statement by any party.  But, as you say, the street news and context would be appreciated.</p>
<p>SCKC</p>
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		<title>Comment on Professor Pretty, Dean &#038; Stuart McCutcheon, Vice-Chancellor - Write a Letter to the Editor by PK</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-63</link>
		<author>PK</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-63</guid>
		<description>Totally kate. If a climate of fear exists it is unlikely that Sharman or the Vice-Chancellor will see evidence of its existence... that is the point. there's a climate of FEAR. the fact that they have not heard reports of it from tutors or students merely reinforces this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally kate. If a climate of fear exists it is unlikely that Sharman or the Vice-Chancellor will see evidence of its existence&#8230; that is the point. there&#8217;s a climate of FEAR. the fact that they have not heard reports of it from tutors or students merely reinforces this point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Professor Pretty, Dean &#038; Stuart McCutcheon, Vice-Chancellor - Write a Letter to the Editor by EJ</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-61</link>
		<author>EJ</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-61</guid>
		<description>she is such a patronising liar. We aren't idiots. There are not 4000 head of schools in the university, or 4000 heads that were recruited after a year of searching and interviews.

one of our major concerns is the frustrating style of management a la sharman and it's impact on our staff and our learning environment.

btw medicine is lumped into the fac of medical and health sciences and they haven't all that enthused about it ever since it was established</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>she is such a patronising liar. We aren&#8217;t idiots. There are not 4000 head of schools in the university, or 4000 heads that were recruited after a year of searching and interviews.</p>
<p>one of our major concerns is the frustrating style of management a la sharman and it&#8217;s impact on our staff and our learning environment.</p>
<p>btw medicine is lumped into the fac of medical and health sciences and they haven&#8217;t all that enthused about it ever since it was established</p>
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		<title>Comment on Craccum News - Page 8 by sevensixfive</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=42#comment-60</link>
		<author>sevensixfive</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=42#comment-60</guid>
		<description>Can someone here please post some bullet points about what\'s going on for the benefit of those (like me) who are outside the situation, and have absolutely no idea what\'s going on?

I was fortunate to study with Peggy when she was the Associate Dean and Professor at the Yale School of Architecture. She\'s one of the best teachers I\'ve ever run into in my 9 years of higher education.

What I want to know is this: what are the rumors? I see the articles posted here, but they\'re ultimately not very informative to someone who\'s not on the ground there. They\'re all just Official Statements repeating news of the Deep Misalignment. What is the conventional street wisdom about this misalignment?

Some street news and context would be greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone here please post some bullet points about what\&#8217;s going on for the benefit of those (like me) who are outside the situation, and have absolutely no idea what\&#8217;s going on?</p>
<p>I was fortunate to study with Peggy when she was the Associate Dean and Professor at the Yale School of Architecture. She\&#8217;s one of the best teachers I\&#8217;ve ever run into in my 9 years of higher education.</p>
<p>What I want to know is this: what are the rumors? I see the articles posted here, but they\&#8217;re ultimately not very informative to someone who\&#8217;s not on the ground there. They\&#8217;re all just Official Statements repeating news of the Deep Misalignment. What is the conventional street wisdom about this misalignment?</p>
<p>Some street news and context would be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Professor Pretty, Dean &#038; Stuart McCutcheon, Vice-Chancellor - Write a Letter to the Editor by Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-58</link>
		<author>Kate</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-58</guid>
		<description>Of course she isnt aware of the climate of fear.  People are TOO scared to go speak to her.  She knows it, and is loving it.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Professor Pretty, Dean &#038; Stuart McCutcheon, Vice-Chancellor - Write a Letter to the Editor by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-57</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-57</guid>
		<description>God she is daring !!!

Don\'t think she realises that this is not going to simply blow over.

I don\'t think we have actually gone to the common media yet, its almost immature that she has !

Well, she has started it now ... Letters to the editor - here we come !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God she is daring !!!</p>
<p>Don\&#8217;t think she realises that this is not going to simply blow over.</p>
<p>I don\&#8217;t think we have actually gone to the common media yet, its almost immature that she has !</p>
<p>Well, she has started it now &#8230; Letters to the editor - here we come !</p>
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		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-55</link>
		<author>Simon</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-55</guid>
		<description>These two are just  unbelievable. 
They truly have been drinking their own cool-add and have no idea of reality.

There is only one solution to this situation the Architecture School Needs to break away from the umbrella group of NICAI....

Take its deserved position along side other independent  professional faculties ie Engineering Law and Medicine.

WE do not need the meddling of the NICAI, who sole purpose seems to be to market is self with no regard to the schools under its control.(just try finding the school of architecture web site) good luck..

It is an insult to profession for us to lumped under the same umbrella as Dance and Music and ridicules to think an oboist has the faintest idea what the needs or direction the Architectural school should take.

Our needs are Unique, as the practices of  Architecture requires an understanding of both ART and SCIENCE ..

save our school</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These two are just  unbelievable.<br />
They truly have been drinking their own cool-add and have no idea of reality.</p>
<p>There is only one solution to this situation the Architecture School Needs to break away from the umbrella group of NICAI&#8230;.</p>
<p>Take its deserved position along side other independent  professional faculties ie Engineering Law and Medicine.</p>
<p>WE do not need the meddling of the NICAI, who sole purpose seems to be to market is self with no regard to the schools under its control.(just try finding the school of architecture web site) good luck..</p>
<p>It is an insult to profession for us to lumped under the same umbrella as Dance and Music and ridicules to think an oboist has the faintest idea what the needs or direction the Architectural school should take.</p>
<p>Our needs are Unique, as the practices of  Architecture requires an understanding of both ART and SCIENCE ..</p>
<p>save our school</p>
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		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-54</link>
		<author>fj</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=38#comment-54</guid>
		<description>.... like... "no comment"... period.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Article in Chinese Express by Rei</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=30#comment-52</link>
		<author>Rei</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=30#comment-52</guid>
		<description>This is the Chinese translation of that piece of artical on NZ Herald</description>
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		<title>Comment on Article in Chinese Express by anon</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=30#comment-51</link>
		<author>anon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=30#comment-51</guid>
		<description>cud someone translate this?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Article in Chinese Express by Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=30#comment-50</link>
		<author>Laura</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=30#comment-50</guid>
		<description>Ok from my very poor chinese, its pretty much a translation fron the NZ Herald article, but yeah!!!  My parents can have an idea what i'm going on about now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok from my very poor chinese, its pretty much a translation fron the NZ Herald article, but yeah!!!  My parents can have an idea what i&#8217;m going on about now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes prepared for Tuesday Sept 4 Meeting by Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-45</link>
		<author>Laura</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-45</guid>
		<description>How can the she(Pretty) except to keep leading the faculty when no one has any respect left for her?  Yes she has the postion and the power that comes along with it but what kind of leadership can be expected from that? One based on abuse and bullying!  But i believe that she has underestimated the will and passion of the students and staff here, and we will retaliate if she did try to do anything with studio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can the she(Pretty) except to keep leading the faculty when no one has any respect left for her?  Yes she has the postion and the power that comes along with it but what kind of leadership can be expected from that? One based on abuse and bullying!  But i believe that she has underestimated the will and passion of the students and staff here, and we will retaliate if she did try to do anything with studio.</p>
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		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-43</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-43</guid>
		<description>Mistake again gosh!

(continued from first entry)
. . . As I hear it one of the sources of "irreconcilable differences" was because she [Deamer] insisted on continuing to teach in studio and not go to endless management meetings which I think she was right to insist on.  You don't get someone of her calibre over here and stick her in meetings all the time.  It surprised me that Auckland was able to get her, those East Coast US architecture people don't like to be separated from New York at all.  Auckland is unlikely to get anyone near her abilities in the future - and not just in Architecture, the University will have taken a hit in terms of its international reputation by their treatment of her.  It was unprofessional and plain embarassing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mistake again gosh!</p>
<p>(continued from first entry)<br />
. . . As I hear it one of the sources of &#8220;irreconcilable differences&#8221; was because she [Deamer] insisted on continuing to teach in studio and not go to endless management meetings which I think she was right to insist on.  You don&#8217;t get someone of her calibre over here and stick her in meetings all the time.  It surprised me that Auckland was able to get her, those East Coast US architecture people don&#8217;t like to be separated from New York at all.  Auckland is unlikely to get anyone near her abilities in the future - and not just in Architecture, the University will have taken a hit in terms of its international reputation by their treatment of her.  It was unprofessional and plain embarassing.</p>
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		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=32#comment-42</link>
		<author>Cass</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=32#comment-42</guid>
		<description>Man, this is one confused guy. 

I'm sure Mr or Mrs McKeown works hard in order to pay lots of taxes, but calling an academic who works for a private institution a public servant is a little bit of a stretch. Likewise calling taxpayers 'shareholders' is going a little bit far in any context.

Still, it's entertaining eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, this is one confused guy. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Mr or Mrs McKeown works hard in order to pay lots of taxes, but calling an academic who works for a private institution a public servant is a little bit of a stretch. Likewise calling taxpayers &#8217;shareholders&#8217; is going a little bit far in any context.</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s entertaining eh?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes prepared for Tuesday Sept 4 Meeting by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-41</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-41</guid>
		<description>My mistake; ignore the first sentence of the second paragraph - that was in response to someone thinking that Pretty had/has plans to eliminate studio - perhaps not eliminate as such but I wouldn't be surprised about a decrease in allocated studio times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mistake; ignore the first sentence of the second paragraph - that was in response to someone thinking that Pretty had/has plans to eliminate studio - perhaps not eliminate as such but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised about a decrease in allocated studio times.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes prepared for Tuesday Sept 4 Meeting by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-38</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-38</guid>
		<description>(A bit of information sent to me - another irritated/dumbfounded professional)

That's interesting.  I heard that staff were shocked by what had happened and how it happened in terms of the resignation and having to clear her office by the end of the weekend.  In fact it's perhaps the only thing to have united all the staff there for many years!
 
I don't know about what she [Pretty] closed but she certainly didn't eliminate studio.  As I hear it one of the sources of</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(A bit of information sent to me - another irritated/dumbfounded professional)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s interesting.  I heard that staff were shocked by what had happened and how it happened in terms of the resignation and having to clear her office by the end of the weekend.  In fact it&#8217;s perhaps the only thing to have united all the staff there for many years!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about what she [Pretty] closed but she certainly didn&#8217;t eliminate studio.  As I hear it one of the sources of</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes prepared for Tuesday Sept 4 Meeting by diabase</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-35</link>
		<author>diabase</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-35</guid>
		<description>There is some interest on Archinect - particularly in response to Peggy Deamer\\\'s resignation and her American connections. I suggest starting a thread on Archinect to get more wide spread attention. As far as I can tell there is minimal input from NZ based students and practitioners on Archinect - and more publicity would help...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some interest on Archinect - particularly in response to Peggy Deamer\\\&#8217;s resignation and her American connections. I suggest starting a thread on Archinect to get more wide spread attention. As far as I can tell there is minimal input from NZ based students and practitioners on Archinect - and more publicity would help&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes prepared for Tuesday Sept 4 Meeting by Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-32</link>
		<author>Laura</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-32</guid>
		<description>We really need to keep pushing and not let down.  We have to let the univeristy know how serious we are and that we will not back down until the necessary changes are implemented.  I know it will be hard especially with crit and exams looming, but this will a critical time, as they would expect us to lose interest.  Great work guys!!  Thanks for all the blood and sweat you have put in so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We really need to keep pushing and not let down.  We have to let the univeristy know how serious we are and that we will not back down until the necessary changes are implemented.  I know it will be hard especially with crit and exams looming, but this will a critical time, as they would expect us to lose interest.  Great work guys!!  Thanks for all the blood and sweat you have put in so far.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes prepared for Tuesday Sept 4 Meeting by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-31</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-31</guid>
		<description>We need to keep pushing this, regardless to the response we are awaiting.  That will be best done through the profession but i think bringing the media perhaps also has potential in delivering pressure.  Control of that media by way of issuing an official press release may be the way to channel that pressure in the correct direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to keep pushing this, regardless to the response we are awaiting.  That will be best done through the profession but i think bringing the media perhaps also has potential in delivering pressure.  Control of that media by way of issuing an official press release may be the way to channel that pressure in the correct direction.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes prepared for Tuesday Sept 4 Meeting by Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-29</link>
		<author>Simon</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=28#comment-29</guid>
		<description>This is a good start we need to keep this up and not let the issues die.... as i am sure the university is expecting .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good start we need to keep this up and not let the issues die&#8230;. as i am sure the university is expecting .</p>
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		<title>Comment on NZHerald Article by Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=8#comment-28</link>
		<author>Laura</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=8#comment-28</guid>
		<description>I actually had an interesting conversations with peggy about architecture education at a workshop down at wellington for CtrlShift07.  It was obvious that she had great plans for the school and her enthusiasm for change was very inspiring.  It is such a shame that we will never witness her vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually had an interesting conversations with peggy about architecture education at a workshop down at wellington for CtrlShift07.  It was obvious that she had great plans for the school and her enthusiasm for change was very inspiring.  It is such a shame that we will never witness her vision.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NZ Herald Readers Forum - Views expressed from Elam by Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=26#comment-25</link>
		<author>Laura</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=26#comment-25</guid>
		<description>Its great to see that we're not alone, this really shows that issues are not just rising from architecture and planning, giving further evidence that faculty mangement is the source of our problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its great to see that we&#8217;re not alone, this really shows that issues are not just rising from architecture and planning, giving further evidence that faculty mangement is the source of our problems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Response from the Vice-Chancellor by Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=23#comment-24</link>
		<author>Laura</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=23#comment-24</guid>
		<description>This is such a dissapointing response, i wonder if the vice-chancellor considered the weight of the issues at stake and why over 350 students signed the letter.  We are crying out to be heard!  If our voices have been heard why would we be going to him?  His lack of interest is a concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such a dissapointing response, i wonder if the vice-chancellor considered the weight of the issues at stake and why over 350 students signed the letter.  We are crying out to be heard!  If our voices have been heard why would we be going to him?  His lack of interest is a concern.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NZ Herald Readers Forum - Views expressed from Elam by Liz</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=26#comment-23</link>
		<author>Liz</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=26#comment-23</guid>
		<description>I Agree with Anonymous</description>
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		<title>Comment on NZ Herald Readers Forum - Views expressed from Elam by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=26#comment-22</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=26#comment-22</guid>
		<description>I appreciate this lecturers courage.</description>
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		<title>Comment on NZHerald Article by Derail</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=8#comment-20</link>
		<author>Derail</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=8#comment-20</guid>
		<description>EG - one of the comments.

&lt;a href="http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=63637_0_24_0_C" rel="nofollow"&gt;Peggy Deamer is one of the best teachers I've ever had, I'd love to hear the story behind this ... any NZ kids reading?
- sevensixfive, Aug 30, 07 &#124; 6:04 am&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EG - one of the comments.</p>
<p><a href="http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=63637_0_24_0_C" rel="nofollow">Peggy Deamer is one of the best teachers I&#8217;ve ever had, I&#8217;d love to hear the story behind this &#8230; any NZ kids reading?<br />
- sevensixfive, Aug 30, 07 | 6:04 am</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on NZHerald Article by Derail</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=8#comment-19</link>
		<author>Derail</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=8#comment-19</guid>
		<description>Some interesting responses from some Practitioners out side of NZ have been received on &lt;a href="http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=63637_0_24_0_C" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=63637_0_24_0_C&lt;/a&gt; where a link to this article has also been posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting responses from some Practitioners out side of NZ have been received on <a href="http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=63637_0_24_0_C" rel="nofollow">http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=63637_0_24_0_C</a> where a link to this article has also been posted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Response from the Vice-Chancellor by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=23#comment-17</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=23#comment-17</guid>
		<description>Is the Vice-Chancellor even aware that our reason for going to him is because we HAVE already attempted resolving these situations 'at source' many times in the past.

I hope that regardless of what Professor Pretty has to say or offer at the meeting on Tuesday, that we remain persistent at achieving resolution of these issues via the Vice-Chancellor and not Professor Pretty.  As I see it, Professor Pretty IS THE ISSUE.

Persistence is difficult as architecture students especially in the latter half of the semester.  But we have to be, its the last straw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the Vice-Chancellor even aware that our reason for going to him is because we HAVE already attempted resolving these situations &#8216;at source&#8217; many times in the past.</p>
<p>I hope that regardless of what Professor Pretty has to say or offer at the meeting on Tuesday, that we remain persistent at achieving resolution of these issues via the Vice-Chancellor and not Professor Pretty.  As I see it, Professor Pretty IS THE ISSUE.</p>
<p>Persistence is difficult as architecture students especially in the latter half of the semester.  But we have to be, its the last straw.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the Vice Chancellor - Delivered by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=15#comment-13</link>
		<author>Nick</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=15#comment-13</guid>
		<description>Beautifully Presented ! , in true architectural fashion.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Vice Chancellor&#8217;s Office has Recieved our Letter by do</title>
		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=18#comment-12</link>
		<author>do</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=18#comment-12</guid>
		<description>five years in UoA, i still don\'t know who our VC is.
and five years in Arch school, i still haven\'t seen the dean actually walk in to the studio or attended any of our crits.  i don\'t even know how she looks like in real life. Sometimes I wonder if they are even real PEOPLE ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>five years in UoA, i still don\&#8217;t know who our VC is.<br />
and five years in Arch school, i still haven\&#8217;t seen the dean actually walk in to the studio or attended any of our crits.  i don\&#8217;t even know how she looks like in real life. Sometimes I wonder if they are even real PEOPLE ?</p>
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		<link>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=18#comment-7</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sos.derail.co.nz/?p=18#comment-7</guid>
		<description>"As advised to the students, the Vice-Chancellor was away in Wellington and the letter will be brought to his attention on his return."

If it is important enough, the Vice-Chancellor should either fly back now, or make a statement immediately</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As advised to the students, the Vice-Chancellor was away in Wellington and the letter will be brought to his attention on his return.&#8221;</p>
<p>If it is important enough, the Vice-Chancellor should either fly back now, or make a statement immediately</p>
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